Although, I will note, as an alumni of the school, the low passage rates of the Bar exam are concerning. I’m sorry that we were not around in 2007 to help guide you in the right direction at the time, but it is good to hear that you have at least be able to get a job (even if it isn’t practicing law). A tight curve on a law school exam can mean very little different between an A and a C. I’m glad you did well, but the LSAT is used as the best determining factor of how students will do at their respective law schools. Really, Time Magazine? Tests like the GRE and LSAT do require you to have some knowledge about a variety of subjects, they aren’t knowledge based tests. That is factually incorrect Mr. Banks. Where you go to law school is the most important factor of job prospects. By Vivia Chen | December 22, 2020 at 03:26 PM On the contrary, we’re very sympathetic to students. Graduated from Cooley in 1992, Bird class. A trial for a 2005 assassination (which may have caused political unrest? It’s not an opinion, though, it’s statistics. besides being a traditional, courtroom lawyer. Yes, he paid a lot more for his degree than our state school would have cost, but he got his foot in the door and is making a name for himself as a lawyer. That’s why you went to Cooley….you didn’t BOTHER to do the least bit of work and you reap what you sow, in your solo practitioner firm, in the most competitive legal market in the U.S. Just like the school….a JOKE! People feel strongly enough about trashing these schools that they have compiled accurate school profiles and decorated them with pictures of cow dung. from Cooley considering they have offered me full ride and book money. Luckily for me, I was quick to realize the errors of my ways and after 2 months was able to “take a leave” from Cooley, as an opportunity to expand my business was presented to me. In fact, she failed the bar exam, but received a passing score after an appeal. For example, if you want to work in LA, you are better off going to even a low ranked school that places a lot of people in LA. Retiring from law enforcement after thirty years thinking of law school. Most of you take the LSAT very seriously. Most importantly. The school did not make it easy for us. There are too many lawyers for the jobs available. I didn’t even know what LSAT stood for before I went to law school and it took me 6 months to find out the right way to say Prothonotary. When their median LSAT score dropped 1 point from 146 to 145, their bar pass rate dropped by a few percentage points. I don’t see an easy way out of the downward spiral Cooley has leaped into. Unlike most law schools, Cooley does not always reliably publish their average student indebtedness. Why pick on Cooley? Also any value of their JSD in intercultural human rights? Sure, some drop out, can’t hack it, even bomb the bar exam. He actually come into class and teaches Property law. 1) We never called Cooley Law School graduates losers, as you are quick to imply. Well said. And now Western Michigan (like Michigan State did) has ended their affiliation with Cooley. Whether you went to Harvard or Timbuktu College of Law, work for a big firm or small, you won’t make a lot to start. It was the students choice to waste their money. There’s an embarrassing mistake in the TOTALS columns of the “July 2015 Michigan Bar” table. (actually I went a step further and shredded my diploma and sent it to them because I want nothing to do with that school). Where Cooley failed in my opinion was having poor management. However, I assure you all that’s how it is; like it or not. Top Vault firms won’t even hire outside of the top schools typically. I have a friend who also went to Uconn and attended Cooley, and he has become very successful and I have other friends who have attended better schools who make crappy livings and are not happy with the state of the law. I ultimately want to practice healthcare law and like that WMU also offers a hybrid MPH (masters of public health) so if I were to attend Cooley, I could get a JD/MPH. Even people from top schools struggle. Ninety percent of LSAT takers perform better on the test. As the recession hit and the legal market shrank, law schools have had a choice about how to handle it. Or underwhelming. Of those relatively few students who secured private sector work, at least half make 45K or more. And at the end of my 3 years my total student debt was just $15,000.00. The point is that “statistically”, attending Cooley is not a good idea due to the over saturation of lawyers vs. available law jobs. Cynthia, great job! Save yourself the heartache and only attend law school under much much better circumstances. If you want to find some truly harsh invective about Cooley and schools like it, it will just take a little googling. I passed the MI bar exam on the first try. Doctor. Saying it doesn’t matter where you go to law school is perhaps the most telling statement of how little you know about this subject. It does matter where you go to law school, but it might not be the most highly ranked school. My point is… why bash another school because they are trying to give some students a chance? LST posts job prospects, and they are nothing short of terrifying. (Bloomberg) --Internet shutdowns cost India $2.8 billion, putting the South Asian nation at the top of a list of 21 countries that curbed citizens’ web access in 2020. So after reading this I’m curious. I am saying that it is easy to sit back and throw stones because you don’t see where they land. Is some of this fair? But for the 20% it gave them a chance to enter the profession and excell. They could have sought out having affiliations or mergers with area State colleges. Although I was accepted at other similar Law Schools… Furthermore, you assume that everyone is a “worker bee” looking for a legal job. My experience totally turned me off from the law and I bounced around to 2 other firms because my ex-wife’s job until 2009 when I changed to my current career as a professional poker player. You may not have intended the article to be insulting to Cooley students and graduates, the inference that we take is that you are calling us, as an above poster stated, “losers,” I, like many Cooley graduates did not have the opportunities to go through college and enjoy the college experience with a few hours of work a week and be able to concentrate on studies. I went to Cooley. I didn’t score super high(156) with a 3.9 GPA and a great Resume but have had several top 25 schools offer as well but nothing near full tuition. The key is that you need to look at your particular circumstances to determine whether Cooley or other law schools work. Josh, you overlooked a few things this amazing litigator, in the most competitive market in the U.S., mentioned. Not every one passes the bar on the first try, either. Cooley’s law library alone was about the same size as all of New England Law School. Given that even very low ranked schools generally try to take only students that perform better than average (about a 152), you can see how Cooley has committed themselves to scraping the very bottom of the applicant pool. I finished both high school and undergrad a year early and like the option of graduating law school early. While most are doing well, they are no better off than attorneys who did well at the University of Utah or BYU. Law schools are not like other graduates schools! The next were 2 or 3 from Michigan State….you know, the school that got a law school about…..6 years ago. I rather a smart Pharmicst helping me then you since you arnt smart. But sometimes we see things happening in the legal education industry that we simply can’t ignore. I actually thought about checking the box that I was a minority. With work and a social life, lack of study time kept my grades and LSAT grades down. I landed a job and made partner at a medium size firm in 3 years. The key is what you can do with that law degree. Your dish on Cooley seems to be for purposes of selling your LSAT prep so that people like me don’t end up going to a school like Cooley. Take it from my own experience and those of my classmates at a high ranked school: $122K is hard to pay off when you are making $160K your first year. For the last year I can find it, 2013, it was a whopping $122,395.. Take it from my own experience and those of my classmates at a high ranked school: $122K is hard to pay off when you are making $160K your first year. Be ready to move. Also, do you really want to work in BIGLAW? Going to a low ranked law school does not prevent you from having a successful career. After graduating, I went back to my home state of NJ and take the bar. First, Rehnquist never attended Princeton he is a Stanford graduate 1948..Second, your Professor Rooney did not attend Princeton he is a University of Illinois Graduate 1953. https://www.cooley.edu/faculty/john-rooney. Do you think its worth paying loans off and attending a top 25 school or go the opposite direction and go to one of the lowest ranked schools for essentially free. His AMAZING professors??? Getting the job done is impossible when no one will hire you. Now that they appear to be unwilling to lower enrollment any further, they’ve resorted to slashing admissions standards, doing whatever it takes to fill those 450 seats. The boards that the grades were posted were called the “weeping wall.” Especially after a student was flunked out after putting a year or more of hard work into their education. If you want to work in Portland, the University of Oregon is probably a better better than a highly ranked east coast firm. There is no debate about statistics. H. Be ready for debt. We all knew of Cooley’s reputation when we enrolled (from the likes of this article to accusations by the ABA (who has never liked the idea of Cooley’s mission) which the school does not hide from us. Take my advice and go to a law school that will actually benefit you. He has a $3M book and is one of the leading shareholders in a one of the largest 10 firms in our market. By Kathryn Rubino. This is about getting experience. My undergraduate degree is in public health. When I was applying, the economy was in the dumps, everybody was trying to get a advanced degree, and reverse discrimination was rampant. The height of the Black Death, 1348, when as many as 200 million people died, ranked No. With close to a 90% acceptance rate, Cooley has effectively an open admissions policy. Yes, I worked while at Cooley (whatever the maximum # of hours they allowed), and then worked full time while studying for the Bar Exams (I took, and passed a few). The regret I have is quickly forgotten, now that I have financial freedom and probably make more than if I had become a successful attorney. What attracted me to Cooley besides affordability was its mission statement. It depends on where you have been accepted. Cooley Law, however, has secured a deserved reputation as the worst of the worst, churning out scores of the most uncompetitive graduates into an extremely competitive profession that has nowhere near the ability to absorb them all. Signed, Hey Tricia, I’m currently about to enter my first summer semester at Cooley. Going to a school outside the top14 (with the exception of a T1 regional school with full-tuition) is a bad idea. Which Law Schools Have the Best and Worst Debt-to-Income Ratios Among Recent Graduates? Honestly Evan, you can eat shit. A lot. We work very hard — harder probably than the “average” law student (the old, “work twice as hard to get half as far” idea). Many were just looking to augment the credentials they already had. Consider, not everyone who graduates from law school wants to work at a large law firm – that’s not always the standard of success. Every law graduate must pass the same essay questions or Multistate Performance Test in their state. I was a paralegal/legal assistant for 10-years prior to enrolling last fall. This seems to be the beginning of the end for Cooley Law School. They really just test your puzzle solving ability. G. Be aggressive for that first job. Does this mean that Cooley is a bad school, maybe, does is mean that I would not be successful with a degree from there, probably not. Tell that to the 74% of Cooley Law grads who can’t find a job. Unlike most law schools, Cooley does not always reliably publish their average student indebtedness. Especially when those jobs are for low pay which make paying off your loans and establishing your life and family next to impossible. from the University of Chicago & 5 years of experience analyzing law school admissions trends. The best of which was Michigan, a top 10 school. If a business wants to sell it’s products exponentially, they would do better focusing on their feature and benefits, what strengthens them, and not what flaws another has. Why anyone would sacrifice three-plus years of their life and the very real potential for nondischargeable debt in excess of $200,000.00 with minimal job prospects is simply mind-boggling. When this new crop of students graduate in 2018, its going to be a bloodbath. At $45k and lower, expect to be burdened indefinitely. ——–. MUMBAI: Internet shutdowns cost India US$2.8 billion, putting the South Asian nation at the top of a list of 21 countries that curbed citizens’ web access in 2020. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The problem is the vast majority do not. Also, Cooley offers an accelerated JD. How evere if you are persient overcomes a lot of hurdles there is room at the top the world is full of educated fools regards, This is the worst response to ANYTHING I have ever read. Since 2011, FIRE has named and shamed 65 individual colleges and universities as America’s worst for free speech. Which was to prepare graduates for a solo or small firm practice of law. As noted in some of the comments, some students have attended Cooley with reasonable LSAT scores and have chosen the school for a variety of reasons. Lebanon has gone through so much already. Study the rankings, make sure they are accredited, look at student-to-faculty ratios and the school’s bar passage rate history. I work with a young lady that graduated from MSU’s College of Law and she said she was not prepared for the bar exam after graduation. Well, there they are: Our picks for the worst law schools in the United States. When insulting someone – make sure you correct your spelling. Until of course some insider leaked an internal memo which proved their policy. There are so many things one can do with a J.D. When I was there, it seemed like more than 30% of the class was unable to pass the first year, and each year, more students dropped out. The only benefit of graduating from Cooley is that I got a J.D., which allowed me to get a good job outside of practicing law. Why would any firm who has the choice not hire from a Top school? The coronavirus pandemic boosted the fortunes of Allied Healthcare Products, a manufacturer of respirators, but it was bad for several other … If you don’t mind me asking you, where are you working right now as a lawyer? I got a 50% scholarship, so my tuition there would be approximately $30,0000 a year. No, for many of them, it was not because they were not intelligent, it was either because they just did not “get it,” or they happened to have been in a class where they were in that 1/3rd of survivors. These pass rates are pretty shocking. Many graduates struggle to even pass the bar. Rand Paul Is The Worst, Federal Judges Edition — See Also. We ranked the neighborhoods from worst to best in the chart below. Everyone can get an F if they study hard and do well on the test. It would be very beneficial as I get ready to sit for the September lsat exam and continue to weigh it as a possible career path. So I took a stab at an old practice exam. These types of exams measure analytical thinking. At some point the ABA needs to step in to protect potential victims, established practitioners, as well as to preserve what is left of the legal profession’s integrity. Also Medical school acceptance is just like Law school. I was accepted into 23of the 25 schools I applied to. From consumers stand point I have hired and before adjuncts that are worst of the worst in Lansing mi Detroit law not much better bad news won’t hire any. Is it true that there is only one law school in all of Nevada? That’s just one area and there are many many more opportunities you have no idea . I also graduated in January 1999. Yes, even then it was a 4th Tier school, and I knew that if I made it through, the struggle would not stop because any employer out there is going to hire a graduate based from a higher ranked school than me. She did not bash businesses for attempting to sell LSAT products. Flash forward 26 years, I am a multi millionaire and thankfully made the correct choice for myself. Would it be worth attending Cooley if I got a full scholarship? 38% of Cooley Grads who took the Michigan bar exam in July 2018, statistically the worst entering class of law students in the history of American legal education at an ABA-Accredited law school, LSAT Takers Up in 2015-2016, Ending 5-Year Downturn, https://www.cooley.edu/faculty/john-rooney. Another factor to consider is that Cooley just built a brand new Auburn Hills campus which is very close to my home and offers free parking in contrast to UD Mercy where parking is an additional 100 a month. The Simon Wiesenthal Center on Tuesday unveiled its list of 2020’s top 10 worst anti-Semitic incidents.. Such as with Grand Valley State, Eastern Michigan and Oakland Universities. Cooley was making a surprising good faith effort to keep their numbers from falling through the floor, but now they have, as one legal blogger put it, “abandoned all pretense of maintaining sound admission policies.” It might be more accurate to say that they’ve abandoned the pretense of having any standards whatsoever. These bar pass rates are from 2016, which means that these students were accepted back when Cooley’s median LSAT score was a 145. No, for many of them, it was not because they were not intelligent, it was either because they just did not “get it,” or they happened to have been in a class where they were in that 1/3rd of survivors. Plainly, you are simply better off not attending Cooley. As a rising senior in University considering law school, also very bad with standardized exams, I needed to know your opinion on all of this. Perhaps the DMV or Comcast customer service. He is now doing well at a local midsized law firm. While I do appreciate your feedback, I hope that you (and others who read your comment) realize that your anecdotal account simply isn’t representative of what today’s students can expect from a Cooley education. There are a lot of terrible law schools out there, certainly. It’s this recent move, combined with their commitment to keeping a huge class in spite of offering very poor job prospects, that earns Cooley the distinction of being the very worst law school in America. This does not bode well for the class of 2018, whose median LSAT score is a shockingly low 141. In fact I still play chess with my products liability prof who once played against Garry Kasparov. There are ABA disclosures showing their own appalling employment rates. Unfortunately, like so many other schools, the school inflated employment statistics; had I known that the statistics they provided were untrue, I would not have made such a huge investment in time, energy and money (debt) to attend and graduate. Go to a school that you can afford, apply yourself, come out ready to compete, treat your clients right, and make a lot of money. 2020 was the worst year for LGBTQ rights in the past two decades in the European Union. If you go to Cooley you have to go above and beyond what students from higher ranked ls’ will. I had started a company that was already making me about $40,000 and left to attend law school. Any success I’ve had in the legal field I can credit to those professors, but that’s where anything positive I can say ends. Situation as you last April and, if they happen to you if you want to work BIGLAW. 20 years at student-to-faculty ratios and the physical plant ample “ your reputation of working hard and well... 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